If you were yelling from your computer chair for me to box up the Christmas tree Jack already destroyed it. First it was on the ground a couple times, then it was broken in half -- no way to repair. Mark encouraged corporal punishment for Jack, but I suggested he take a long walk off a short dock, didn't rescue these kitties for them to get knocked around a year later. "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work."--Thomas Edison